Thanks Perry, looks like you are on the right trail for this rabbit................
 
K4JDR
 
On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 18:15:03 -0500 <kg8id@kg8id.com> writes:

I found this at repeater builders - http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/440fdipl.pdf

it says 23 inches between each element, mine are from top to bottom - 22 13/16, 25 1/2, 22 5/16 then the next set are 22 7/8, 25 5/16, 23 1/16.

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Subject: Re: question on a DB420 - from KG8ID

 

Hello Perry,
Good to hear from you again.  The DB-420 is probably a 460 mhz cut antenna and you will have some reflected power.  Usually we have about 1 watt reflected for 60 watts and sometimes 1/4 watt.  Decibel for some reason stopped making the 440 mhz cut antenna three years ago.  This is unfortunate because it was the antenna of choice and best performer.
 
This is what I would do:
 
1.  Make sure there are no damaged or cracked elements or problems with harness. 
 
2.  Assure that the spacing of the antenna dipoles are in the omni configuration.  In other words the top 4 bays are in the same direction and the bottom 4 bays are in the same direction with both 180 degrees apart between top and bottom with elements at 90 degrees. 
 
3.  Then measure the distance between the center of all folded dipoles.  Take a magic marker and mark the positions and document measurements. 
 
4.  Use a analyzer to check the antenna out on your output frequency and maybe move the dipoles further away from one another as much as the harness allows you to see if there are any improvements at ground level.
 
5.  If it improves that is good, if not you just move it back to the original markings and assure proper alignment.
 
6.  Usually they will improve once mounted on a tower.  If a VSWR is present you could incorporate a circulator on the repeater to absorb the reflected power.
 
7.  When checking VSWR, check between the transmitter and duplexer first, then check after the duplexer to see the difference in watts output and reflected power.  You may also want to reduce your power output from 57 watts to 40 watts output. 
 
 
The antenna cut for 460 mhz with 40 watts and reflected power of 2-3 watts may still out perform other antennas as long as you do not have de-sence.  I think it will improve once it is in the air on the feed line.
 
Hope this helps and please let me know your findings on your project.
 

 
 
 
 
On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:52:34 -0500 <kg8id@kg8id.com> writes:

We are seeing higher then normal SWR from our top repeater antenna (Hustler Spirit Series) so we took a recently aquired  DB420 8 bay folded dipole antenna to the site and connected it to a Telwave SWR meter and the meter to the duplexer antenna port, the RF power out was 57.5, the reverse or reflected was 4.5, so the calculated SWR is 1.8:1, which is acceptable, is this SWR showing an antenna that is tuned higher in the band say for the
Business Band? And after knowing this will the antenna still perform good for us?

There is more to the story but I did not want to take too much of your time, thanks

Perry/KG8ID